Prophecies CE still available anywhere? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

nbajammer · Nov 27, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

Sure some players would now like the Prophecies CE; but you can't always get what you want and sometimes you shouldn't either.

No, It's still not a contradiction. They produce an appropriate amount of the CE's relative to the player base at the time of release. If there was a higher demand than anticipated and they all sold out in like three days; then I could see them maybe doing a second run. But the Prophecies release had no issues. It came out on time; there were no shortages. It was atleast 8 months before they even started getting scarce. That release went off without a hitch and now it's over and done with.

Just like the Special edition that is starting to get more scarce, once they're gone they're gone. No matter how many people regret not buying them when they had a chance; they're not going to reprint them. This is like people that just bought Factions demanding a Tengu mask.

Guess what? This is an online, ever-changing game. The player base changes and grows over time. If the player base says we want this, it may be an indication that they should listen. After all, this is how we get things changed in the game. But no, this is not the same as people just buying Factions demanding a Tengu mask because they couldn't walk into a store and plop down some money and receive their own in-game mask. The Factions release had no issues either - just an oversight to the actual demand which created a lack of availability. Well the demand for the previous CE apparently is also underestimated, even if it is over a year later. This is more than a few people wanting it. Maybe it's time another run was done.

SylverDragon · Nov 27, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

As well as HMV.co.uk, you can also find copies listed at mx2.co.uk and powerplaydirect.co.uk. However, I don't believe that the last two stores will ship beyond Europe.

Differences between the European and US Proph CE
- Genius headset instead of Logitech
- Softback art book

The European version has the same DA.

Griff Mon · Nov 27, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

All this talk about Prophecies CE never becoming available again.

Give it time. Any major game I have ever seen that is a series comes out as a multi-pack at some time. I anticipate that all three games (or four or five) will all be packaged together at some point in a trilogy package or something of the sort. And it will probably have something special with it.

If there is a demand, they could easily put all three collector's editions in one package and sell it once sales start to slow down to get people interested again.

ArcaneApostle · Nov 27, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

A re-release of all of them together wouldn't be a completely good thing either, because I am only missing one of them; I don't see any reason to start another account. Anyways, aside from the art book being soft cover (as opposed to the US version being hardcover, I assume), and the headset thing (which doesn't really matter), there aren't any differences? Maybe the UK version could work, then; hard cover is overrated anyways.

nbajammer · Nov 27, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Griff Mon

All this talk about Prophecies CE never becoming available again.

Give it time. Any major game I have ever seen that is a series comes out as a multi-pack at some time. I anticipate that all three games (or four or five) will all be packaged together at some point in a trilogy package or something of the sort. And it will probably have something special with it.

If there is a demand, they could easily put all three collector's editions in one package and sell it once sales start to slow down to get people interested again.

That's something I hadn't considered - also since rumor has it that these 3 are a trilogy of sorts, it'd make sense to repackage them together. Hopefully they will make it special as a compilation of the CEs complete with minipets and the DA and the sort. I'd actually buy that, believe it or not.

silara_jorinset · Nov 28, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

One question about prophecies CE. Is it possible to add the key for the divine aura without losing any of the characters created under standard propehcies?

nbajammer · Nov 28, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Yes, because all adding the CE key to a standard Prophecies account will do is add the features not already present, such as the Divine Aura. Your characters will still be there but will now have "glowing hands".

Manic Smile · Nov 28, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Well, I had to try even if it's a scam. It looked pretty legit and I paid by credit card so I'm not to worried. I'll post if I get a reply that they are shipping it. And shipping to the US is ~19 dollars.

nbajammer · Nov 28, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Im not sure how it'd be a scam, since it appears to be a retail site, but nonetheless I'm interested in the results. Did it get shipped? How fast did it get here? Were you able to link it? And so forth...

KillaKarl · Nov 28, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

hmmm...hehehe i just got an idea, since most ppl want the divine aura nowadays, why not make it a reward, like for the ppl who win 1st place in the Guild Wars Championships, that way those who really want it will have to work their a**es off to get it, this will also inspire ppl to do more GvG

nbajammer · Nov 28, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

That'd be an interesting way to do it, but I would make it more something anyone could do, since not everyone likes to play GvG. Maybe something like achieving the "People Know Me" title or something.

gamecube187 · Nov 28, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59

I really don't see why they don't re-print CE's. Its not like it will be "ruined" because more people have it. If anything, I would think it would be good, because ArenaNet would make a lot more money, and more people would be able to enjoy it.

And don't say "it won't be as special because then everyone will have the special dances/glowing hands/whatever else it is." 100 People having it and 100000 people having it won't make it look any different. It will still look exactly the same and you want it because it looks good, right?

I know that if 5 years from now, I still play GW (hopefully I will!

), and ArenaNet remakes all the CE's, even if every single person that plays buys a CE, I'll still like my CE just as much. Acually, maybe even more because then there are more people with shiney cool dances and more people to sync with.

And as far as getting a emote for pve titles, that might not be the best. Just look at fame. We might end up having all the player groups for missions (especially ones that are almost imposible with henchies/heros) saying "Looking for more for mission~~~~need (insert build here)~~~~must have (insert emote that you get for title here)."

On the other hand, if something like that doesn't happen, then that would be awsome to get emotes for pve titles.

Loviatar · Nov 28, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by gamecube187

I really don't see why they don't re-print CE's. Its not like it will be "ruined" because more people have it. If anything, I would think it would be good, because ArenaNet would make a lot more money, and more people would be able to enjoy it.

And don't say "it won't be as special because then everyone will have the special dances/glowing hands/whatever else it is." 100 People having it and 100000 people having it won't make it look any different. It will still look exactly the same and you want it because it looks good, right?

.

NO .....WRONG!

the CE is the real life equivalent of the ingame super rare item that collectors will pay 1000k plus ectos for.

if it was not rare why bother collecting it?

you pay a higher price to get something *special* that will *stand out* in the crowd.

the people who bought the very first CE had no idea if it would be a waste of money or not.

we (i as well) got lucky with DA .

if the special ingame effects become available in game the CE market will drop badly not go up.

EXAMPLE

art book?........wouldnt pay a cent for
headphones?......have them and the CE ones are still in the box
poster?.....in box
other items?.....in box

DIVINE AURA?........THAT IS WHAT I BOUGHT IT FOR

make the backup dancers/DA/disco ball/etc available from store/in game and no need to bother with a CE at all

Dazzler · Nov 28, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

There were plenty of CE's on release just like there are plenty of Nightfall CE's now. Prophecies CE was not uber-rare. It was not a limited supply in any real sense. It took many many months before I stopped seeing the CE sitting on the Best Buy store shelf. Check back in 18 months and see how many Nightfall CE's are still available.

People that wanted it and wanted to show their support to GW purchased it. DA was one of their rewards. The in-box items were their other rewards. All of these items (both in-game and real-life) have value now. This value has increased because the supply has dried up.

Producing more CE copies now would de-value these items and would be a slap in the face to the loyal customers that ponied up for them when they were readily available. This is a COLLECTOR'S ITEM. Name another collector's item that the manufacturer just decided to produce more of 18 months later. It just is not done as it devalues the current supply that is in the market. Instead, NEW collector's items are created, giving new people a chance to start collecting. By your reasoning, everyone that started playing Magic the Gathering after it became popular should have been able to purchase all the Alpha & Beta cards that were no longer being produced just because they wanted to.

I do believe there will be a future compilation that has all three games. But based upon what has happened with all the various re-releases of GW:Prophecies, I am confident that any future compilations will have entirely new and different in-game bonuses than anything previously released. A-Net has already stated they feel DA is a gift to the people that were around and willing to support a fledgling product.

nbajammer · Nov 28, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Dazzler

There were plenty of CE's on release just like there are plenty of Nightfall CE's now. Prophecies CE was not uber-rare. It was not a limited supply in any real sense. It took many many months before I stopped seeing the CE sitting on the Best Buy store shelf. Check back in 18 months and see how many Nightfall CE's are still available.

People that wanted it and wanted to show their support to GW purchased it. DA was one of their rewards. The in-box items were their other rewards. All of these items (both in-game and real-life) have value now. This value has increased because the supply has dried up.

Producing more CE copies now would de-value these items and would be a slap in the face to the loyal customers that ponied up for them when they were readily available. This is a COLLECTOR'S ITEM. Name another collector's item that the manufacturer just decided to produce more of 18 months later. It just is not done as it devalues the current supply that is in the market. Instead, NEW collector's items are created, giving new people a chance to start collecting. By your reasoning, everyone that started playing Magic the Gathering after it became popular should have been able to purchase all the Alpha & Beta cards that were no longer being produced just because they wanted to.

I do believe there will be a future compilation that has all three games. But based upon what has happened with all the various re-releases of GW:Prophecies, I am confident that any future compilations will have entirely new and different in-game bonuses than anything previously released. A-Net has already stated they feel DA is a gift to the people that were around and willing to support a fledgling product.

The items in question are not valuable items, nor do they carry any real sense of value. Again, this is confusing Collector's Edition with Limited Edition. If Anet wanted to appease the fan base who want to buy the Prophecies CE, they have every reason and every ability to do so. And from a financial standpoint, they very well should. I have a fair number of old trading cards here at home. I looked up their value. They aren't worth squat. The art book, poster, etc. in the box won't carry any form of value with anyone except those willing to buy them and comparing that to something like trading cards where there are collectors everywhere, would show that producing more will NOT devalue the items in question. Supply would be up, but not the value. 20 years from now, people are not going to be looking for the art book that came with the Prophecies CE because it is rare and they want to look at the pictures.

And do not compare Guild Wars to Magic the Gathering. That's comparing apples to oranges. Computer game vs card collecting game. Two entirely different entities.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 29, 2006, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by nbajammer

Remember this is a COLLECTOR'S edition, not a LIMITED edition. In fact, the more copies sold means that people cared enough about the game - even after playing Factions and Nightfall - to want to throw their support behind Anet, and this with or without owning the standard Prophecies.

As far as video games go; collector's editions are inherently limited editions.

http://www.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/50548.php

They're not going to re-release it no matter how you try to justify why they should; the point is moot.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

As far as video games go; collector's editions are inherently limited editions.

http://www.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/50548.php

They're not going to re-release it no matter how you try to justify why they should; the point is moot.

They also said (numerous times) they would never add character slots. Look what happened. Point valid.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 29, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by nbajammer

They also said (numerous times) they would never add character slots. Look what happened. Point valid.

I don't recall them ever saying they wouldn't add character slots; what they did say was they'd never allow account merging(which they have stuck to).

Anarion Silverhand · Nov 29, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Deleted a bunch of posts. Please try and keep this thing on topic.

-Anarion

Manic Smile · Nov 29, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

For any that care I just bought the Prophecies CE from that Euro site listed and they just processed my order. I'll update again when they bill my credit card and provide a shiping/tracking number.

Nov 27, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#22
SylverDragon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheshire, UK	As well as HMV.co.uk, you can also find copies listed at mx2.co.uk and powerplaydirect.co.uk. However, I don't believe that the last two stores will ship beyond Europe. Differences between the European and US Proph CE - Genius headset instead of Logitech - Softback art book The European version has the same DA.

Nov 27, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#23
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	All this talk about Prophecies CE never becoming available again. Give it time. Any major game I have ever seen that is a series comes out as a multi-pack at some time. I anticipate that all three games (or four or five) will all be packaged together at some point in a trilogy package or something of the sort. And it will probably have something special with it. If there is a demand, they could easily put all three collector's editions in one package and sell it once sales start to slow down to get people interested again.

Nov 27, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#24
ArcaneApostle Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006	A re-release of all of them together wouldn't be a completely good thing either, because I am only missing one of them; I don't see any reason to start another account. Anyways, aside from the art book being soft cover (as opposed to the US version being hardcover, I assume), and the headset thing (which doesn't really matter), there aren't any differences? Maybe the UK version could work, then; hard cover is overrated anyways.

Nov 28, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44	#26
silara_jorinset Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: AoFT Profession: E/Me	One question about prophecies CE. Is it possible to add the key for the divine aura without losing any of the characters created under standard propehcies?

Nov 28, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03	#27
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	Yes, because all adding the CE key to a standard Prophecies account will do is add the features not already present, such as the Divine Aura. Your characters will still be there but will now have "glowing hands".

Nov 28, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37	#28
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	Well, I had to try even if it's a scam. It looked pretty legit and I paid by credit card so I'm not to worried. I'll post if I get a reply that they are shipping it. And shipping to the US is ~19 dollars.

Nov 28, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43	#29
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	Im not sure how it'd be a scam, since it appears to be a retail site, but nonetheless I'm interested in the results. Did it get shipped? How fast did it get here? Were you able to link it? And so forth...

Nov 28, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16	#30
KillaKarl Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006	hmmm...hehehe i just got an idea, since most ppl want the divine aura nowadays, why not make it a reward, like for the ppl who win 1st place in the Guild Wars Championships, that way those who really want it will have to work their a**es off to get it, this will also inspire ppl to do more GvG

Nov 28, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16	#31
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	That'd be an interesting way to do it, but I would make it more something anyone could do, since not everyone likes to play GvG. Maybe something like achieving the "People Know Me" title or something.

Nov 28, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59	#32
gamecube187 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006	I really don't see why they don't re-print CE's. Its not like it will be "ruined" because more people have it. If anything, I would think it would be good, because ArenaNet would make a lot more money, and more people would be able to enjoy it. And don't say "it won't be as special because then everyone will have the special dances/glowing hands/whatever else it is." 100 People having it and 100000 people having it won't make it look any different. It will still look exactly the same and you want it because it looks good, right? I know that if 5 years from now, I still play GW (hopefully I will! ), and ArenaNet remakes all the CE's, even if every single person that plays buys a CE, I'll still like my CE just as much. Acually, maybe even more because then there are more people with shiney cool dances and more people to sync with. And as far as getting a emote for pve titles, that might not be the best. Just look at fame. We might end up having all the player groups for missions (especially ones that are almost imposible with henchies/heros) saying "Looking for more for mission~~~~need (insert build here)~~~~must have (insert emote that you get for title here)." On the other hand, if something like that doesn't happen, then that would be awsome to get emotes for pve titles.

Nov 28, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#34
Dazzler Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/Me	There were plenty of CE's on release just like there are plenty of Nightfall CE's now. Prophecies CE was not uber-rare. It was not a limited supply in any real sense. It took many many months before I stopped seeing the CE sitting on the Best Buy store shelf. Check back in 18 months and see how many Nightfall CE's are still available. People that wanted it and wanted to show their support to GW purchased it. DA was one of their rewards. The in-box items were their other rewards. All of these items (both in-game and real-life) have value now. This value has increased because the supply has dried up. Producing more CE copies now would de-value these items and would be a slap in the face to the loyal customers that ponied up for them when they were readily available. This is a COLLECTOR'S ITEM. Name another collector's item that the manufacturer just decided to produce more of 18 months later. It just is not done as it devalues the current supply that is in the market. Instead, NEW collector's items are created, giving new people a chance to start collecting. By your reasoning, everyone that started playing Magic the Gathering after it became popular should have been able to purchase all the Alpha & Beta cards that were no longer being produced just because they wanted to. I do believe there will be a future compilation that has all three games. But based upon what has happened with all the various re-releases of GW:Prophecies, I am confident that any future compilations will have entirely new and different in-game bonuses than anything previously released. A-Net has already stated they feel DA is a gift to the people that were around and willing to support a fledgling product.

Nov 29, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43	#39
Anarion Silverhand Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denmark Guild: None	Deleted a bunch of posts. Please try and keep this thing on topic. -Anarion

Nov 29, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24	#40
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	For any that care I just bought the Prophecies CE from that Euro site listed and they just processed my order. I'll update again when they bill my credit card and provide a shiping/tracking number.